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halient
08-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Subject: Hitmen
August 17, 2008
Mobsters, after much consideration we have decided to remove hitman and muscle out of the game permanently, they will be removed in 48 hours from now. We wanted to let everyone know before we do it.


Thanks For Reading,
Mafia Corruption Management Team
Views : 79 || Discussions Posted : 0


Discuss

street
08-17-2008, 09:48 PM
our goal in this game is to catch up to those with higher stats than us..

now, if the means to do that is gone..aside from sitting there for hours using wills..the motivation and the interest will slowly fade, coz its gonna be hard to use wills to get to 100bil stats each..

will that mean Dave, viet, rem and them will be forever on top??

that will just kill everyones interest coz we already know we wont catch up to them..

and eventually kill everyones interest in playing this game..

thats my solemn opinion..

unless they have something better cooked up..otherwise..WERE ALL DOOMED

Lucy
08-17-2008, 10:12 PM
Just getting this straight in my head, awhile ago hitmen/muscles were removed and then brought back only for a short period? Correct? (before my time sorry!)


Neways, I would just like to reassure players that something will be added to bring the titans of this world into reach of hard working dedicated players, everyone has to have something to aim for right?

Leaving hitmen and muscles as it is, is not an option and that decision will not be reversed. What I suggest is:

標e add pills that act the same as hitmen/muscle to the search the alleys so they randomly appear, we also add the option to refill your search the alley points

標e add these pills to the donation section of MC

標e add an in game option in which you can cause your opponent to lose 10% of his stats for 30 mins.

謬he assassinate feature becomes cheaper?

標e make some kind of addition where you get strength from numbers? Multiple people can take one guy down.

Im only trying to come up with ideas as I appreciate something so critical can稚 be removed without something to replace it. Any sensible suggestions add below please and lets come up with a solution.

street
08-17-2008, 10:24 PM
•We make some kind of addition where you get strength from numbers? Multiple people can take one guy down.

thats what im talking about.. i guess if all of these are put in, we should be ok then..

Fred
08-17-2008, 10:36 PM
i appreciate what you are saying lucy...... but alot of what you are saying has been said before?????? my question is why have a pill to do what a muscle/hitman can do.. to tell the truth im getting dis heartened !!!!!! i have spent real money on this game!!! and the goal posts keep getting moved... i was looking forward to making enough money where i can spend it on muscle/hitmen to beef my stats up.... now thats being taken away WHY!!!!

Hypervalor
08-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Wait wait, slow down.

Mobsters, after much consideration we have decided to remove hitman and muscle out of the game permanently, they will be removed in 48 hours from now. We wanted to let everyone know before we do it.

Does that mean If my Hitman is an armor, so it will be removed too or it's just remove from the shop?

Lucy
08-17-2008, 10:59 PM
I know this move wouldn’t be a very popular one, but we are trying to think of the big picture, stats are becoming way crazy. Eventually it will get to the point where everyone has the same insane stats. We are just trying to slow this growth down, I have played a game similar to this before (I wont mention it) but I found it was the challenge of getting to the top that was most fun, I never did get to the top but I had fun trying. I wouldn’t have known what to do once I was at the top anyway.

As it was said along time ago, hitman and muscle would be removed, we gave players time to adapt, and we have given them an additional 48 hours to shop until they drop. I am sorry if my suggestions have been said before. Im not trying to move the goal posts im just trying to preserve them so they will have a future.

Hitmen and muscle will remain as armour and weapons under a new name and the use option till be removed.

street
08-18-2008, 12:00 AM
will these options kick in soon as u guys remove the hitman? or are we gonna have to wait months to see the changes?

im sorry, im beginning to loose interest already.

Hypervalor
08-18-2008, 12:09 AM
No, i think if it's already in your inventory, it wont be removed. Correct me if im wrong.

Ann Tonym
08-18-2008, 12:17 AM
As another donator who is a train-a-holic and striving to be in the top 20, I gotta say - The removal of these items eliminates any opportunity for me to compete at any high level, and makes this game unworthy of my time and especially any more of my real $$.

Unless the new options Lucy mentions are implemented PRIOR to hitmen and muscle being removed from the game, I, for one, will never spend another nickel of real money here. And if hitmen and muscle already in my inventory are disappeared as a result of this maneuver, you will never see me on this site again. That is all.

Frankie G
08-18-2008, 12:57 AM
to clarify, if you already have a hitman, will it go away or not? If a hitman is my armor, will it magically disappear, or will I still have it - you just wont be able to buy them anymore?


These ideas sound ok:
標e add pills that act the same as hitmen/muscle to the search the alleys so they randomly appear, we also add the option to refill your search the alley points

標e add these pills to the donation section of MC

otherwise, I think I am ready to quit this game. There is no hope for most of us to get our stats anywhere near competitive with the top players. I'm already bored of this game, this just makes me less interested than before. It's too bad I've worked so long and hard to get where I am and still have crappy stats with no hope of ever competing with others. :(

Hypervalor
08-18-2008, 01:00 AM
I know this move wouldn’t be a very popular one, but we are trying to think of the big picture, stats are becoming way crazy. Eventually it will get to the point where everyone has the same insane stats. We are just trying to slow this growth down, I have played a game similar to this before (I wont mention it) but I found it was the challenge of getting to the top that was most fun, I never did get to the top but I had fun trying. I wouldn’t have known what to do once I was at the top anyway.

As it was said along time ago, hitman and muscle would be removed, we gave players time to adapt, and we have given them an additional 48 hours to shop until they drop. I am sorry if my suggestions have been said before. Im not trying to move the goal posts im just trying to preserve them so they will have a future.

Hitmen and muscle will remain as armour and weapons under a new name and the use option till be removed.[/B]

If it's in your inventory, it wont be removed. But not sure, ask a staff to be more sure.

The use option till be removed? Did you mean The use option will be remove?

mr i y
08-18-2008, 01:24 AM
thats bull!not fair i want my money back i got hacked and now im getting my best weapons taken away from me wtf i should have queit when i lost my money

skaterx46
08-18-2008, 01:56 AM
yea this will kill the game, this may be the breaking point for me and im sure its going to be for many others.

if hitmen and muscle stay:
the game gets a few members who get maxed stats (it takes a lot of money to get there so not too many will get it). so this still gives the other, lets be nice and say 12000 actvie players at least some hope of catching up since the top of the top cant get their stats any higher.

if hitmen and muscle leave:
this will lengthen the gap even further for the 12000 players, and almost eliminates any chance of catching up.

i mean look a lot of really great players and players who at one time enjoyed the game have left the game because of changes like this in the game.

like:
urban (yea she was pretty bitchy but she was good.)
TGS
Google
rcmontoya
stainless steel citizen
and theres more than that.

pweezy
08-18-2008, 02:08 AM
i completely agree this is not good not all of us players can afford to be dropping tons of real cash into the game i mean i donate every 3 months at least a lil but if u take the option to become into the top 20 with paying real money i guess ill start playing my ps3

skaterx46
08-18-2008, 02:28 AM
this does seem like a money maker for mc though. i mean when it comes down to it what its going to do is put more real cash in "someone's" pockets.

because like lucy said there may be a pill implemented in the donation section that will give the same thing a hitman does.

so you take away the free hitmen, and make us have to pay to get them.
i hate to see you guys take away from this game just to try to make some money, i mean people have donated upwards to a thousand dollars. not to mention, i mean exactly how many people have paid for RM packs? whats that add up to? and how about people who purchased multiple RM's?

its getting stupid guys.

GamerBB
08-18-2008, 02:30 AM
No more donations from me.

skaterx46
08-18-2008, 02:43 AM
also even though it could be the biggest mistake you guys will make, if hitmen are removed, i think the existing ones should be left alone. taking the use link away will just piss more people off. just take them out of the shops. i mean this is a recipe for disaster.

Ann Tonym
08-18-2008, 05:00 AM
Recipe for disaster for sure... I was just beginning to stockpile a few hitmen, and continuing to increase stats through the slow-paced, redundant (translate BORING) method of using RBs and will potions... Now I have to use them before I am ready, or I lose them?

Not Fair, Not right, Not OK !!!

If this is a bid for additional real $$, this substituting of something currently purchased with in-game $$ with a donator item, not only will THAT backfire, but some of the game economy will be destroyed.. Points, Will potions, Muscle, and Hitmen are very significant barter items in the game's complex economy.

I haven*t played this particular game for very long, but i have played enough other games to know that this move is sure to backfire - as it has for other game owners :1381:

Hypervalor
08-18-2008, 05:09 AM
Oh wow... because of the update, im now a hobo

skaterx46
08-18-2008, 05:12 AM
yes, this is also going to hurt the game's economy as well. the prices for will potions is going to SOAR! lol i thought 5 mil was a bad price, will pots will be selling for idk 10 mil?that will be the only way for us to train our stats. BUT HEY MORE DONATIONS WILL BE MADE FOR THOSE WHO CANT AFFORD THEM IN MC CASH!

Hypervalor
08-18-2008, 05:25 AM
Subject: Hitmen
August 17, 2008
Mobsters, after much consideration we have decided to remove hitman and muscle out of the game permanently, they will be removed in 48 hours from now. We wanted to let everyone know before we do it.


Thanks For Reading,
Mafia Corruption Management Team
Views : 79 || Discussions Posted : 0

Can we know why staff decide to remove them please? We also want to know the reasons too.

Ehab
08-18-2008, 06:46 AM
i waited 2 long 2 reach 2 a reasonable stats 4 using these hitmen ,and when i reached i found this announcment :mad:
in the past when i c announcment is red then that means a good news and a new features but lately i began 2 hate seeing it in red:mad:
if u were thinking in removing them from a long time,then why didn't u do that,why u waited till b a huge gap between members's stats,when i think that i'll need ages using wills 2 just b near from other players make me sick:confused:
if that all bcoz bringing real money 2 the game owners then it'll b the biggest mistake,and why i don't c the admins reply ,why only i c always LUCI near 2 help members and the other admins r away thinking 4 another announcment 2 kill us:mad:

Gikko
08-18-2008, 06:54 AM
People this was done ages ago. The staff do this stuff to protect the game. You only see the disadvantages. The game owners see both the advantages and disadvantages. The will potions used to be sold at $30mill so saying that $10mill is a big price to pay, it isnt... I have only been back for a couple of days and im met by people moaning and groaning already! grrr. If you dont like the update just say so, say why and add some icons to stress the point, then try and persuade the stuff why u think it should be added back in, but also read other peoples posts.

Chayron
08-18-2008, 07:54 AM
No, i think if it's already in your inventory, it wont be removed. Correct me if im wrong.
That is correct, they will be removed from the shops only and not from the game, so if you have any in your inventory they will remain there.


I would like to explain why were doing this, as Lucy said, everyone's stats are increasing at an insane rate, and all the high stats members will continue to use hitmen so there isnt really a way to catch them.

We might extend the deadline until we add in the suggestions that Lucy made, there will be a replacement to the hitmen in the form of pills and they will be available as donation items, we will also through some of them in the alleys. Other suggestions will also be implemented before the removal of the hitmen.

Again we are only doing this for the greater good of the game, we have no intention of ruining the game for anyone and it was indeed a hard decision to make, dont think that we take these decisions lightly but as i said we cant sit back and see the game ruined and do nothing.

vito d corleone
08-18-2008, 08:16 AM
After long thought, I've come up with two suggestions that could possibly save this game for lower level players... Though I have undoubtable faith in chayrons decisions are meant to make this game more apealing for all players, I believe by taking hitmen out of the game will have adverse affects on our game economy and will greatly reduce the amount of interest for lower level players. any way,
Option #1: Reduce the effectiveness of hitmen to 1.5% and muscle to 1% for just str and grd. by doing this and maintaining current prices, yes the value of points will increase and so will the value of will pots. This will result in two things, the slower advance of players stats and increased donations. Not a terrible thing because as we've seen with server upgrades and programming upgrades in the past month, more donations = better quality programming and more game options.
Option #2 create a limit for the number of hitmen allowed to be used every day. I think two would be perfect, it would allow for the lower level players who may not be able to afford more than that to have a chance to "stay in the game, and not let the richer higher level players run away by purchasing bankloads at a time and using them immediately.

* With both of these options I believe the maximum amount of money allowed in banks should be increased to 3 billion vice 2.1... bil. This will enable all players to afford greater prices of points if they are unable to donate.

Either way, until a solution is thoroughly planned and executed, I would highly recommend leaving hitmen and muscle as they are. Removing them from the game will likely have a catastrophic impact on our economy.

eman one bullet pangiotti
08-18-2008, 08:38 AM
i agree with Vito in his option #1.

i'm a low level myself and i've donated and spent money in this game already. if hitmen are gone and their replacement isnt as effective in chopping down high lvl players at the knees, then i c no point in continuing to play with the intent of catching up to these beasts

vito d corleone
08-18-2008, 08:39 AM
i like this luc idea..
we never will reach number 1 in stats if they keep using hitman..
and for newbie it's al ot of hell to get 1 mil even in strength only...
so make up some new good system chayron.. :D
gogogogo
Chayron

INCREASE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF TRAINING... if its only donor items that have a % stat increase they what about the 15 year old kid who doesnt have a job but plays this game all the time... it will be pointless for him to continue.

I completely agree, the whole situation needs to be rebuilt from the foundation up, these are merely temperary fixes until this does happen

Increasing the effectiveness of training would be great for lower level players to get in the game quicker though

Ehab
08-18-2008, 08:49 AM
i'm with Vito 's 2nd suggestion by making a limit 4 using,the staff can manage what'll b the limit but not taking them off,and again by making pills instead of them ,means u didn't remove them ,u just make it 4 peoples who r donating and ignored the other members who r n't,so that means the staff r looking 4 money not improving the game,and more than that i've problem with donating as my country isn't listed in pay pall and when i tried 2 use my cell phone in donating (inspite of the high cost) i couldn't ,that means killing all my chances 2 grow up,if u checked my status in the last month,i'm sure u'll find me the highest rate of the online status,just 2 b able 2 use the game money 4 something useful,and after all that my efforts gone with the wind or u can say with thihs announcment,so i wish u consider my situation and i'm sure that i'm not the only 1:(
by the way i left many games bcoz they began good then turning 2 money seekers,and i don't want 2 leave this game after it was the most popular 2 me.
this game 's 4 the members ,so i think it'll b good 2 leave members choose in the critical decission,bcoz they who r playing and who know what'll b the best 4 them,we r not kids (most of us as i think ) so leave us 1 time 2 choose our destiny

Chayron
08-18-2008, 08:54 AM
After long thought, I've come up with two suggestions that could possibly save this game for lower level players... Though I have undoubtable faith in chayrons decisions are meant to make this game more apealing for all players, I believe by taking hitmen out of the game will have adverse affects on our game economy and will greatly reduce the amount of interest for lower level players. any way,
Option #1: Reduce the effectiveness of hitmen to 1.5% and muscle to 1% for just str and grd. by doing this and maintaining current prices, yes the value of points will increase and so will the value of will pots. This will result in two things, the slower advance of players stats and increased donations. Not a terrible thing because as we've seen with server upgrades and programming upgrades in the past month, more donations = better quality programming and more game options.
Option #2 create a limit for the number of hitmen allowed to be used every day. I think two would be perfect, it would allow for the lower level players who may not be able to afford more than that to have a chance to "stay in the game, and not let the richer higher level players run away by purchasing bankloads at a time and using them immediately.

* With both of these options I believe the maximum amount of money allowed in banks should be increased to 3 billion vice 2.1... bil. This will enable all players to afford greater prices of points if they are unable to donate.

Either way, until a solution is thoroughly planned and executed, I would highly recommend leaving hitmen and muscle as they are. Removing them from the game will likely have a catastrophic impact on our economy.

I agree, we will need to come up with a complete solution to the whole situation before removing them, we will see if we can implement the updates in time, if not hitmen WILL STAY UNTIL THE UPDATES ARE MADE.

Chayron
08-18-2008, 08:57 AM
i'm with Vito 's 2nd suggestion by making a limit 4 using,the staff can manage what'll b the limit but not taking them off,and again by making pills instead of them ,means u didn't remove them ,u just make it 4 peoples who r donating and ignored the other members who r n't,so that means the staff r looking 4 money not improving the game,and more than that i've problem with donating as my country isn't listed in pay pall and when i tried 2 use my cell phone in donating (inspite of the high cost) i couldn't ,that means killing all my chances 2 grow up,if u checked my status in the last month,i'm sure u'll find me the highest rate of the online status,just 2 b able 2 use the game money 4 something useful,and after all that my efforts gone with the wind or u can say with thihs announcment,so i wish u consider my situation and i'm sure that i'm not the only 1:(
by the way i left many games bcoz they began good then turning 2 money seekers,and i don't want 2 leave this game after it was the most popular 2 me.
this game 's 4 the members ,so i think it'll b good 2 leave members choose in the critical decission,bcoz they who r playing and who know what'll b the best 4 them,we r not kids (most of us as i think ) so leave us 1 time 2 choose our destiny

We said that we will add pills to the alleys, we are also working on a new way to donate, this is a new system that has not been implemented in other game and i didnt want to say anything about it now, but i am being forced to mention it, this new donation system will allow players that cant spend money to donate!! sounds strange right? but yes, you wont have to pay anything but yet donation packs will be given in return!

Chayron
08-18-2008, 09:07 AM
making the gym more effective will be making new guys will chase us faster..
i'm not with you in this one..
but we must make some system that can make it fair for everyone.. :D

If the training is more effective for low levels that means it will be more effective for everyone, everyone will benefit from it, that doesnt mean this suggestion will be included in the update, i am just saying...

Ehab
08-18-2008, 09:08 AM
We said that we will add pills to the alleys, we are also working on a new way to donate, this is a new system that has not been implemented in other game and i didnt want to say anything about it now, but i am being forced to mention it, this new donation system will allow players that cant spend money to donate!! sounds strange right? but yes, you wont have to pay anything but yet donation packs will be given in return!

yuy sounds strange but good at the same time:) i'm curious about how it'll b:D

rapido
08-18-2008, 09:45 AM
Just getting this straight in my head, awhile ago hitmen/muscles were removed and then brought back only for a short period? Correct? (before my time sorry!)


Neways, I would just like to reassure players that something will be added to bring the titans of this world into reach of hard working dedicated players, everyone has to have something to aim for right?

Leaving hitmen and muscles as it is, is not an option and that decision will not be reversed. What I suggest is:

標e add pills that act the same as hitmen/muscle to the search the alleys so they randomly appear, we also add the option to refill your search the alley points

標e add these pills to the donation section of MC

標e add an in game option in which you can cause your opponent to lose 10% of his stats for 30 mins.

謬he assassinate feature becomes cheaper?

標e make some kind of addition where you get strength from numbers? Multiple people can take one guy down.

Im only trying to come up with ideas as I appreciate something so critical can稚 be removed without something to replace it. Any sensible suggestions add below please and lets come up with a solution.

One suggestion is , once you reach certain stats with your hitmen and muscle, you can no longer use them to train, you can only sell them on to others for profit. Then you would have to use wills and reds to train which takes longer and much harder, and give others a chance to catch up, . If your dedicated you will use the wills and try and stay in front, if not then you lose out. Or the other way round, you cant use them till you reach certain stats, therefore rewarding the hardworking people who strive to be on top and a shop closer to home where you can get them, and a reasonable price.

Gikko
08-18-2008, 09:50 AM
but if u do it u cant use them until u get to a certain stat then that wont solve the problem... were trying to make it easieer for new players not harder... i prefer it the other way round, once u reach a certain stat you cant use them...

rapido
08-18-2008, 10:00 AM
Its much like the levels when you first start, the first 20 or so are easy, then it starts to get harder, the higher level you go up. Should be same with the training, yes i agree with myself lol, once you reach certain stats, you can no longer use hitmen or muscle to train, just reds and wills, then we catch you up if you lost the will to train(pardon the pun) lol.

street
08-18-2008, 10:59 AM
^ill agree with that.

street
08-18-2008, 11:00 AM
and the combine peoples strength into voltron and kill the bad guys! *Lucy's idea*

rapido
08-18-2008, 11:18 AM
ill agree with that too, combined effort, makes no one untouchable:1513::1381:

Lucy
08-18-2008, 12:02 PM
Just to clarify, we are still going to be removing muscles within the next 24 hours, however we have agreed that hitman will remain until something has been implemented to take the place of thie hitmen/muscle. Something will be done ASAP

Ann Tonym
08-18-2008, 04:17 PM
Its much like the levels when you first start, the first 20 or so are easy, then it starts to get harder, the higher level you go up. Should be same with the training, yes i agree with myself lol, once you reach certain stats, you can no longer use hitmen or muscle to train, just reds and wills, then we catch you up if you lost the will to train(pardon the pun) lol.

i like this idea as well, but if hitmen and muscle are being replaced with a donator item, then this will never fly... do YOU wanna be the one to tell one of the bruisers at the top of the HoF that they cannot use what they just paid for with real $$ ??? I sure don't...

vito d corleone
08-18-2008, 07:40 PM
One suggestion is , once you reach certain stats with your hitmen and muscle, you can no longer use them to train, you can only sell them on to others for profit. Then you would have to use wills and reds to train which takes longer and much harder, and give others a chance to catch up, . If your dedicated you will use the wills and try and stay in front, if not then you lose out. Or the other way round, you cant use them till you reach certain stats, therefore rewarding the hardworking people who strive to be on top and a shop closer to home where you can get them, and a reasonable price.
It is more than possible to catch up. less than one month ago my stats were roughly 5 mil each. if you have the will to get there, you can make it happen.

zephan
08-19-2008, 01:56 AM
man i need hitman and muscle asap

Hypervalor
08-19-2008, 06:32 AM
vito d corleone's idea is not bad at all.

I like the idea of when reaching certain stats.

Gikko
08-19-2008, 01:59 PM
I think Lucy's idea ROCKS XD and vito's idea is ok i suppose. It would take time o implement but the main source of the coding is already done whereas Lucy's would need a whole bunch of new code added.

zephan
08-20-2008, 03:43 AM
yes his idea is good




suck up man

Big Huge
08-20-2008, 04:00 AM
Lets look at this logically. If there is a "pill" that acts like a hitman what will be the difference in it and in hitmen, except for the fact that we will be forced to put more money into your pockets to get this pill. Next you will say, you have to donate to get this pill but it cant be sold on the market. Im starting to lose so much interest in this game that it isnt even funny, Good thing I have a new Xbox game.

PERSONALLY: I dont like the fact that the admins came our with an announcement saying that they are getting rid of hitmen and muscles within 48 hours....JUST TO turn around in 28 hours say...ok ok we are not getting rid of them yet. How is that fair? What about the people that spent money buying hitmen BASED ON ADMINS ANNOUNCMENTS? What about people that donated real money to buy points, so they could try to generate revenue to buy hitmen before they left.... I guess they dont matter. Good thing my DNA has strands of hustle in it or I probably wouldnt even be playing anymore after that stunt. That was worse than a rollback


OH YEAH WOTG 4 LIFE...

moridin
08-20-2008, 04:42 AM
One suggestion is , once you reach certain stats with your hitmen and muscle, you can no longer use them to train, you can only sell them on to others for profit. Then you would have to use wills and reds to train which takes longer and much harder, and give others a chance to catch up, . If your dedicated you will use the wills and try and stay in front, if not then you lose out. Or the other way round, you cant use them till you reach certain stats, therefore rewarding the hardworking people who strive to be on top and a shop closer to home where you can get them, and a reasonable price.

i truly do not like Rapido but his idea of once you reach a certain level they not working anymore is spot on for the most part. there was also a call for reducing the effectiveness of the hitman/muscle. marry those two ideas together. say at level 100 the effectiveness drops to 2% and 200 it drops to 1%.
there some who do not want to see these ideas as a donation ( the 15 year old with no job) item. they should still be for sell in some high level city.

WOG 4 LIFE

Hypervalor
08-20-2008, 05:02 AM
Agreed with Big Huge.

I'm a little disappointing with the announcement...

Staff could at least say something else like:
"Hi mobsters, we are thinking about the removal of Muscle and Hitman but we would like to know your opinions on the Forum"

Instead of "Mobsters, after much consideration we have decided to remove hitman and muscle out of the game permanently, they will be removed in 48 hours from now. We wanted to let everyone know before we do it. "

Sometime, it's good to discuss with players and not only between staff. We could help the game as a player too.

No but see how much you make us nervous and panic... At the end, most of use become hobo... :(

confusion
08-20-2008, 06:45 AM
mayn
big huge
I got more hustla blood than you
hahaha
but yeah
dont take it away
how the hell are we suppose to stat up to catch up

Fugazi
08-20-2008, 09:27 AM
You might as well freeze everyone's stats and say they don't matter any more. If you are removing the slim possibility players who achieved their stats the old fashioned way have of catching those who benefited from the hitmen and muscle, the rest of us might as well not bother trying.

How is someone with 170m total stats ever supposed to compete when it's 1,000,000,000+ just to break into the top 20 now? Or 4,000,000,000,000,000+ for the top 3? Never mind someone who is just starting out...

It's only a matter of time before I end up being a whipping boy people use to level up themselves and their gang, because there aren't really any benefits to being high level, everything other than brave favours the lower level players already.

I'm not sure where all this excess money is supposed to go either, all these people spending their interest every day, they are going to be spending it all on points now, or feeding other players, it can't really help the economy. These items should never have been added in the first place, but to add them, leave them in for months for certain people to benefit from them, then remove them isn't good for the game in my opinion.

zkcool
08-20-2008, 12:15 PM
[QUOTE=hypervalor;7084]Agreed with Big Huge.


Sometime, it's good to discuss with players and not only between staff. We could help the game as a player too.

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i definately agree with this. There is no way that ONLY staff should have a say in this. How many staff members are there??? There cant be more than 10. And there are 23,000 other players who may say differently. I have spent all my money lately buying points so i could get hitmen. I was also going to get my stats higher. But now this is all a wasted effort and the game after this will be quite pointless. You will lose a LOT of players if something is not done to compensate.

yabadab
08-20-2008, 07:53 PM
why not put in 25% will potion too. i talked to alot of players and they thought it would be a good idea. using full will potions when i only need 20% more will is a waste of money. then if it costs less that means more training. more training means more stats. in the long run it would help donators and nondonators

Frankie G
08-21-2008, 01:50 AM
Have to agree with Huge and Fugazi....

I'm annoyed.... broke because I spent all my money on hitmen.... and my donator days have expired - and I don't plan on donating any time soon. No point, I won't make any interest money cuz I'm broke now and I don't feel I have anything to strive for in the game.

I used to love this game, now I've just grown really bored of it and don't see the point anymore.

zephan
08-21-2008, 02:42 AM
yeah i think they should make some

imreallol
08-21-2008, 04:03 AM
at what stats is it more beneficial, money wise, to start using hitman and bodyguard than will pots?

Hypervalor
08-21-2008, 04:32 AM
well, hitmen and muscles are useful. more used than will pot.


Do you think staff must rollback or refund cash to us? :P

street
08-21-2008, 11:54 PM
deffinitely refund.

then they can do whatever the heck they want.

zephan
08-22-2008, 02:46 AM
yeah io think they wont